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guy who chaired the committee, under secretary norman went in and froze the the 1981 bill that became law, that the reagan tax cut we are talking about earlier so it was a practical handle. the neat thing that you recount again five years later it didn't make a difference. four or five years later by 1984 there were 40 other organizations doing knockoffs of what the mandate for leadership had been. >> when i interviewed the president of other think tanks in washington d.c. brookings and c s i s and kato, i said what difference has the heritage approach to research made? all the difference in the world. the brookings president said we now do what heritage first started so heritage really, and i say that in the book, change the think tank culture of washington d.c.. >> one of the neatest things that i can say among all of you, 25, 30 years ago when phil and i were just getting our feet wet at heritage there weren't 600 people in the united states who knew what a think tank was. 600,000 people have voluntarily supported us. that is incredible. incredible impact. >> glad you mentioned that be
guy who chaired the committee, under secretary norman went in and froze the the 1981 bill that became law, that the reagan tax cut we are talking about earlier so it was a practical handle. the neat thing that you recount again five years later it didn't make a difference. four or five years later by 1984 there were 40 other organizations doing knockoffs of what the mandate for leadership had been. >> when i interviewed the president of other think tanks in washington d.c. brookings and c...
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he is proficient in economics and law and vlad holds a doctorate of law and is written a number of books most recently the future of modernization, what we can learn from the crisis. mr. minister we are delighted you are with us and we look forward to your remarks and then we will pepper you with questions. >> thank you very much. sorry for being late. today we are, our hearts and minds are with boston and i hope it will be over soon. i have to make remarks on the financial markets that are going well in europe as you all know. [laughter] i will be brief to have time for discussion and therefore i just want to say we all remember the crisis that started in the united states in 2008 and in 2008 we all agreed it will never happen again. we have to learn our lessons. the summit to london and pittsburgh and a two the g20 meeting today in boston. we have made a lot of progress in doing this since then. we agreed that the reason -- there are three reasons. too much -- too much liquidity in the financial markets and too few regulations. those are the three main issues we are working on and i th
he is proficient in economics and law and vlad holds a doctorate of law and is written a number of books most recently the future of modernization, what we can learn from the crisis. mr. minister we are delighted you are with us and we look forward to your remarks and then we will pepper you with questions. >> thank you very much. sorry for being late. today we are, our hearts and minds are with boston and i hope it will be over soon. i have to make remarks on the financial markets that...
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there is a part of the law that said you don't have to give miranda rights to a suspect to immediately protect the police in a life or death situation. the idea is that when they got him in the boat, they don't know if there are other plots or bombs or devices that the brothers had allege wouldly planted. that was a way to get immediate information about the type of threat they may have posed. dzhokhar remains here in the hospital in serious condition. he lost a lot of blood and suffered two gunshot wounds one in the neck and head one from the car jacking case on thursday night with his brother . the homeowner saw a lot of blood and ironically had authorities had not lifted the shelter in place, he may not be alive today. more on that today. security here is very tight and police are going through bags çfor id's. there is a high level of security in the hospital. he is expected to be questioned by a federal special team that deals with high-value detainees and try to question him about his background and did he or his brother have contact terrorist groups and what did his brother do w
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. >> the law was in 1984 . that is what it at that time. since then specifically after the times square bombing in 2010, >> attempted. >> the f.b.i. put out a memo that addresses the terrorist cases that they could expand the time in which they can question a suspect without reading them their rights. the question is how long of a time is there. we don't know the answer. >> was it not the letter of the law. but was it the intent of the law to stop an imminent threat against the people. for instance times square bomber had blown something out there and had blown something that the authorities needed to know about it >> it is it just a different thing and we don't know if there is someone in chicago and philadelphia and california and that the nature of terrorism is different. we'll expand this exception. this is not the law, shep. it is just a memo . there was talk too. as to whether or not it should go before congress. they fement it appropriate at the time. they could determine if there intelligence or not. >> and so they have a good case
. >> the law was in 1984 . that is what it at that time. since then specifically after the times square bombing in 2010, >> attempted. >> the f.b.i. put out a memo that addresses the terrorist cases that they could expand the time in which they can question a suspect without reading them their rights. the question is how long of a time is there. we don't know the answer. >> was it not the letter of the law. but was it the intent of the law to stop an imminent threat...
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i think we need to do a lot more in order to protect law-abiding americans. i don't care if they came here from another country or lived here all their lives, we need to protect law-abiding people and not worrying about terrorists who come here and their civil rights and their civil liberties. >> it is interesting, mayor, you had mentioned that on fox business. i thought it was profound because you think of the older brother, he had effectively become a citizen on september 11, 2012, the same year he was going back and forth to, you know, chechnya. many are going to try to look at those links and what have you, but invariably, you're right, in a lot of the media coverage there has been a notion that america is to blame for this, yet we are -- your city is proof of that, a mecca for talent around the world, better than 100 nationalities represented in some of the finest schools in the planets. schools that i could never get into, by the way. but i only point out, mayor, that we do that a lot here. your advice to those in the media do is what? >> i'll tell you,
i think we need to do a lot more in order to protect law-abiding americans. i don't care if they came here from another country or lived here all their lives, we need to protect law-abiding people and not worrying about terrorists who come here and their civil rights and their civil liberties. >> it is interesting, mayor, you had mentioned that on fox business. i thought it was profound because you think of the older brother, he had effectively become a citizen on september 11, 2012, the...
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on the books falls under law of war. there is ambigewity if we are on a war on terror in this country. talk to me on your feelingthat and whether or not you consider that to be the case. >> ask the people in boston. radical jihadist are trying to attack us here at home. every day we face threats from radical islamist and they are coming through our back yard and trying to radicalize american citizens. >> do you think the president and administration see it that way as well. they have had a lot of the criticism for the way they handemed nadal has an. does the administration consider us to be in a war on terror. nif they don't, they will make a mistake that will familiar us for years to come. you don't want to incent vise al qaeda or radical jihadist to radicized american citizens and create a terrorist safe haven in terms of legal rightings. i believe we are at war with radical islam and they are trying to attack us here . we have laws in place to deal with enemy combatantless. he didn't rob a liquor store or working for
on the books falls under law of war. there is ambigewity if we are on a war on terror in this country. talk to me on your feelingthat and whether or not you consider that to be the case. >> ask the people in boston. radical jihadist are trying to attack us here at home. every day we face threats from radical islamist and they are coming through our back yard and trying to radicalize american citizens. >> do you think the president and administration see it that way as well. they...
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they did it without getting anybody from law enforcement hurt that we know of. a great day, a great way to end what has been a terrible, terrible week. brian, you've been on the story from the jump. we thank you for your reporting this morning. now over to bianna. >> unbelievable how close that boat was to the house that no one was injured. >> absolutely. >>> we're getting a clearer picture of who these brothers are. the family came to the u.s. 12 years ago after spending time in kyrgyzstan in the dagestan region of russia. in boston, the boys became known as athletes. the younger one, a wrestler. the older one, a boxer. dzhokhar became a u.s. citizen a year ago, on september 11th. but a year ago, their father went back to dagestan after health issues. we sent kirit radia there to find out more about this family. >> reporter: good morning, dan and bianna. this is the last place the suspects' parents were seen here in dagestan. it is a shop they were planning to open. it's where they gave an interview to russian television yesterday. after speaking to abc news se
they did it without getting anybody from law enforcement hurt that we know of. a great day, a great way to end what has been a terrible, terrible week. brian, you've been on the story from the jump. we thank you for your reporting this morning. now over to bianna. >> unbelievable how close that boat was to the house that no one was injured. >> absolutely. >>> we're getting a clearer picture of who these brothers are. the family came to the u.s. 12 years ago after spending...
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residents te residents terrified as law enforcement went door to door. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie beck's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through here. >> they came in and searched the living room area, dining room, went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen area. >> searched cabinets and things like that? >> they didn't go through cabinets or anything like that but went through bedrooms and closet doors and made their way through the back here. >> reporter: beck shared his footage of the s.w.a.t. teams combing through his house. during these moments, they didn't know where tsarnaev was or whether he was carrying explosives on his body. beck got a chill just knowing about it. >> knowing they had him surrounded and so close to our neighborhood it made us think that he might have been here at nighttime and they flushed him out into that area. >> reporter: vivian stevens lives by herself also very close to the house where tsa
residents te residents terrified as law enforcement went door to door. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie beck's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through here. >> they came in and searched the living room area, dining room, went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen area. >> searched cabinets and things like that? >> they didn't go through cabinets or...
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under a law of war we can hold the suspect to a enemy combatment not entitled to miranda warnings or the appointment of counsel. the older brother, he was killed on friday, and they investigated him at the request of a foreign government, and they did not find any ties to terrorism. and we are joined from london by a counterterrorism expert, and mike sullivan here is a former acting director of the bureau of tobacco, firearms and explosives. let's start with you in london, will. the fbi talked to this man in 2011. it does beg the question, did they miss something when they talked to tamerlan tsarnaev? >> well, it's always very difficult to say. however, having said that, if you have an individual that is brought in by the authorities and questioned, again, without knowing exactly what the topic or agenda was that they were requesting him on, one would say that there was sufficient intelligence that may have been brought to them by this foreign government. and they could be a potential risk. and one would have hoped they would have been continually monitored beyond that point to insur
under a law of war we can hold the suspect to a enemy combatment not entitled to miranda warnings or the appointment of counsel. the older brother, he was killed on friday, and they investigated him at the request of a foreign government, and they did not find any ties to terrorism. and we are joined from london by a counterterrorism expert, and mike sullivan here is a former acting director of the bureau of tobacco, firearms and explosives. let's start with you in london, will. the fbi talked...
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this of the law enforcement at its finest. it was the teamwork -- mayor menino tweeted "teamwork" when he shook hands with governor duval patrick. and that's what the world saw. we were not cowed. we were not crumbled by it. there was a sadness and a memorial as you mentioned and shown the pictures and names of the victims. but they only inspired us. >> yes. >> it's the best of what really is the united states. >> it seems that way. mike, one other thing to emphasize here. you know, there's been talk even from the father of the suspects who, you know, didn't believe in their guilt. was not confident, didn't believe in the u.s. justice system, that they managed to take the suspect alive. and that means they're going to get incalcuably needed information. are you innocent until proven guilty and that's important. >> capture him alive will help from the law enforcement perspective, you know, to determine whether or not there -- anybody sells like-minded that could pose great risk or harm. if he died in terms of the capture, they
this of the law enforcement at its finest. it was the teamwork -- mayor menino tweeted "teamwork" when he shook hands with governor duval patrick. and that's what the world saw. we were not cowed. we were not crumbled by it. there was a sadness and a memorial as you mentioned and shown the pictures and names of the victims. but they only inspired us. >> yes. >> it's the best of what really is the united states. >> it seems that way. mike, one other thing to emphasize...
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the people out on the streets applauding the first responders and all of the law enforcement and law enforcement agencies that were here on the streets in in community keeping the community safe and conducting those door-to-door, car-to-car searches along the streets. over 30,000 residents. many pouring out in the dark hours of night showing their appreciation. things happened rapidly. wun once that shelter in your home order was lifted, one man saw the cover on his boat was cut or changed in some way. saw a little bit of blood. took a peek, looked in and actually spotted this individual. dzhokhar tsarnaev. suspect number two underneath that cover. of course, called that in. then things happened very rapidly. of course, there was a massive response of law enforcement. a gun battle between the suspect and law enforcement ensued. ultimately, they were able to bring him into custody and into capture whereas you mentioned earlier, he's at the hospital. before that occurred an m.i.t. officer was shot down and a police chasten sued in which the two suspects according to the attorney's offi
the people out on the streets applauding the first responders and all of the law enforcement and law enforcement agencies that were here on the streets in in community keeping the community safe and conducting those door-to-door, car-to-car searches along the streets. over 30,000 residents. many pouring out in the dark hours of night showing their appreciation. things happened rapidly. wun once that shelter in your home order was lifted, one man saw the cover on his boat was cut or changed in...
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and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news outlets, we're going to try to get the answers. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> thank you. up next on "the five," the latest on the victims, four are dead, over 170 injured and one police officer is fighting for his life. an update on them when we come back okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite,
and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news...
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if it's not actually necessary to law enforcement investigation? is it going to be retained for 24 hours, 48 hours? a month? a year? two years? these are the sorts of question that is we need to be asking. we need to ensure that if this data is collected for a particular purpose. and if it's sold to the public as we are going to be using these cameras for this purpose we need to ensure that there's not mission creep, that the cameras are only used for that purpose going forward in the future. there needs to be oversight on the law enforcement agents that actually get access to the cameras, who can access them, when, what sort of internal mechanisms are created for oversight? because as i said, we've seen in the u.k. and elsewhere that there have been abuses. we can certainly envision that in the future and we need to create proper oversight to ensure that it doesn't happen. >> is there anybody on the hill that's working for legislation to guarantee the kind of oversight that you're look for? it seems that there's going to be at least in new york mo
if it's not actually necessary to law enforcement investigation? is it going to be retained for 24 hours, 48 hours? a month? a year? two years? these are the sorts of question that is we need to be asking. we need to ensure that if this data is collected for a particular purpose. and if it's sold to the public as we are going to be using these cameras for this purpose we need to ensure that there's not mission creep, that the cameras are only used for that purpose going forward in the future....
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but law enforcement can't sustain that. what happens after this is it gets back to the public being vigilant and the public being aware of what's going on. you can't approach a situation like this with a traditional krimmology approach. terrorist doesn't work that way. it's far apart. it's not in a sequence at all. at this point law enforcement has to figure out what we're going to do in different locations. for example, fenway park right? big sporting event. well, up until now when you go into fenway park up until now they would look in your bag to see if you had alcohol. it was random wandert wanding at this point. >> do you think that's going to become regular, peter, or this is sort of a short-term response? >> i think that will become regular. i have no doubt about it. first of all it doesn't take any more personnel to do it. you have to get to the stadium earlier. i think it's going to be a way of life like going to the airport. >> that didn't really affect the roadways, did it?y just assumeing he couldn't get into ca
but law enforcement can't sustain that. what happens after this is it gets back to the public being vigilant and the public being aware of what's going on. you can't approach a situation like this with a traditional krimmology approach. terrorist doesn't work that way. it's far apart. it's not in a sequence at all. at this point law enforcement has to figure out what we're going to do in different locations. for example, fenway park right? big sporting event. well, up until now when you go into...
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the usual warning on every episode of "law & order." there's a question of public safety and they can question him for 48 hours before having to give him the warning and use that information in court. the justice department says most people even in these circumstances, even facing very serious charges ultimately the death penalty if the government chooses to bring it, they still choose to talk. it's a controversial decision nonetheless. some republicans think anyone who commits an act of terrorism even on american soil, even if they're american citizens as he is, should be brought before a military tribunal and treated as enemy combatant. >> it's a political hot potato. a lot of administration officials point out the so-called underwear bomber, umar farouk abdulmutallab continued to talk after being mirandized. thank you to you. >> what are investigators doing now? michael leiter served as the director of the national counterterrorism center under presidents bush and obama. good morning to you. >> good morning, matt. >> let's talk about
the usual warning on every episode of "law & order." there's a question of public safety and they can question him for 48 hours before having to give him the warning and use that information in court. the justice department says most people even in these circumstances, even facing very serious charges ultimately the death penalty if the government chooses to bring it, they still choose to talk. it's a controversial decision nonetheless. some republicans think anyone who commits an...
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n this care the law specifically includes explosives, so a bomb is for the purposes of federal law, a weapon of mass destruction. now, he will be charged with using that the normal punishment for using one is life in prison but if death results, as it did here, three people killed in the marathon, then the government could seek the death penalty. >> when do they expect to start questioning the suspect? >> you know, the best word i have on that is not going to be today, could be tomorrow, dippeds on how he is doing. i don't have a very good idea of his medical condition but i guess the feeling is that it's not as bad as some have said. he can speak. but that perhaps it's not ready -- not time to start questioning him yet. but the charges could still come today. they can charge him and then the questioning and the charging are independent at this phase. >> talk to me a little bit more about this unique group that's actually going to be conducting the interrogation. >> well, in the first phase, what the government will do here is invoke something called the public safety exception. any
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so the fbi does what it says it's able to do under the law. they looked at whether he was in any of the federal databases of suspected terrorists or whether there was any indication that he was communicating either by phone or my looking at internet sites with any suspected terrorist organizations or individuals. they looked at his travel, travel history, all of that came up negative. so then they decided to interview him. they questioned him, questioned members of his family and after doing all that they said we've got nothing here. they said they went back to the russians -- or they went back to the foreign government and said we can't find anything, give us more. tell us more of what you think, why you think this and they say they never got a response. >> the obama administration has okayed the suspension of the suspect's miranda rights. is that a temporary suspension? >> reporter: yes, by law it is. it's called the public safety exception to the miranda rule. normally you have to tell someone they have a right to remain silent and if you d
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it was an amazing piece of law enforcement work. not just the bureau, but everybody cooperating together. this is going to be a big help in the future. it was a help in london when they had their problem. they have cameras all over the place. i think this is what's going to happen in the future of america as well. >>brian: bill, you know what happened in boston, how that city for five days was in basic lockdown. what is the message to new york, to washington, to orlando, any other major city? how would you react? >> you know, people have to go on with their lives. in america we will go on with our lives. we're a tough bunch of people. >>brian: i know we will. what about you guys? do you guys change your approach now? >> we will continue to look at everything, look at the lessons of the marathon. coming up in new york on the fifth of may and i'm riding in this five-borough race, i'm going to be in it. i want to be comfortable doing that. but i guarantee you you're going to see a whole lot more police presence on that bicycle run, the
it was an amazing piece of law enforcement work. not just the bureau, but everybody cooperating together. this is going to be a big help in the future. it was a help in london when they had their problem. they have cameras all over the place. i think this is what's going to happen in the future of america as well. >>brian: bill, you know what happened in boston, how that city for five days was in basic lockdown. what is the message to new york, to washington, to orlando, any other major...